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Whats in the food?

For our premixed food (fresh and frozen) we do chicken or turkey based, hormone, antibiotic free(organic available too) . We add a percentage of beef because dogs need beef protein but don’t tolerate it well unless they are working or super high active dogs. People think raw diet is slapping beef in a bowl and it’s not.

We add fruit/veggies/fish and suppliments and oils.

The supermix is premixed as above with more meat/fat/bones & with extra suppliments and oils for high energy dogs. It comes in 2 lb containers only

 

My vet says organisms like botulism, salmonella and E.coli in the raw meat could kill my dog. Is this true?

Commercial dog food has been around for less than a century. Unlike humans, dogs have been eating raw food for millennia. A dog’s short, acidic digestive system is designed to consume raw meat without absorbing harmful bacteria. Think about it. Dogs lick their butts, eat garbage and drink from puddles. If that’s not making them sick, the BARF diet won’t either. Raw food may contain bacteria, though. Ensure you wash your hands with soap and water after handling your dog’s raw food, just as you would after handling the chicken for your own dinner.

My vet says they’ve seen dogs die on the raw diet. Is this true?

You can kill a dog on any food. Dogs die today from cancer, heart disease, thyroid problems, diabetes and obesity caused by commercial dog foods. They also suffer from commercial diet-related ailments like hip problems, allergies, infections, immune problems and ear infections. When you choose the BARF diet, your dog will live a longer, healthier life. Just remember to follow the guidelines and use the supplements. Doing raw yourself without research can make them sick, sure. There are definitely percentages, portions and protein requirements for raw diets.

Why doesn’t my vet recommend the raw diet? My dog is thriving on it.

Mostly ignorance. Veterinarians received all of their nutritional training from the commercial dog food manufacturers. Until recently, there were no experts to teach about the raw diet. That’s changing. Ask around. More vets are investigating the BARF diet. In some isolated cases, it’s not ignorance – it’s greed. Some vets realize that the raw diet will virtually put them out of business. They make money when your dog gets sick.

My vet says that dogs fed the raw diet will hunt down and eat cats and other small animals. Surely this isn’t true!

Of course not. It’s not the taste of raw meat that makes some dogs chase animals; it’s the hunt. They don’t chase a bowl of food.

My vet says if my dog eats raw and then kisses me, I can can get salmonella

I suppose anything is possible but remember when you grew up and people said “let the dog lick your cut/scrape”? The antibacterial properties in their mouths that allow them to eat poop applies. I have yet to see a report from a vert showing this to be true.

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  1. Chanel says:

    i heard from the Vet that my dog needed 3rd level dentistry, at a cost of $3000, which I can not afford on my own mouth!The breath from her is so nasty! I heard yesterday that whe bad breath is do to a acid digetion vs. Alkaline. Is that true! And what can i do for this! Raw Food! As I look on the issue in humans, and I am sure I am highly acidic, and was told to drink apple cider vinegar at one site, then the next says that vinegar is highly acidic??? I am unable to have children, and my pets are my children. What can I do, if it is true, to keep them alkaline? thank you!

    1. admin says:

      Hello Chanel. My 1st thought is this must be a prank letter. I have never heard of ’3rd level’ dentistry til i thought about it and its is a super unique way to charge about $2700 TOO MUCH!! Very good marketing nonsense!

      Yes, to answer your question raw does make for white teeth. Bones are natures toothbrushes for dogs – not an oversized toothbrush and tuna flavoured paste.
      You dont say what size or breed your dogs is but the bigger the dog, the straighter the teeth the cleaner they are – my 13 yr old lab and my 6yr old St Bernard and my big papillon have spotless white teeth but my little papillons, 9 & 10yrs old, have tartar near the top of their teeth so i put tarter loosening stuff in their water and that keeps much of it off. i did their teeth once in 7 yrs and dont intend to again but it costed me under $500 ea cuz i SHOPPED AROUND.

      You are not stuck paying a vets prices. You can negotiate or phone other vets & see what they charge and pick cheapest. Vets in lower income areas charge substantially less than higher income areas.
      When they say ’3rd level’ i presume they mean infection and some teeth will be coming out and they need to be on antibiotics before the surgery and after.
      This could be true but still doesnt justify the cost in my opinion especially if they are just pulling a lot of teeth. Get a 2nd opinion, and a 3rd or a 4th til you find someone to tell you the truth and charges a reasonable sum of money.

      We have a large dog rescue and while dental is not included in the adoption fee we find ourselves having to do it sometimes when the dog is well infected and in pain. We took in 15 papillons from a puppy mill and had to do teeth on 13 of them (their teeth were ozing pus and no wayto save them!
      We feed our raw diet to the dogs and it imediately cleans their teeth, makes them not stink and with 30-50 dogs i am poop obsessed so the tiny poops from that many dogs is a huge bonus for me.

      Acidic vs alkaline, yes factors (for example cancer can not survive in an alkaline environment) but good luck finding a kibble that will clean teeth AND make or keep your dog healthy too. I would try raw for sure – you see teeth results in as little as 3-5 days – a white line starts up the tooth as crap is knocked off.
      Also TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE at the parks and the play areas – TELL people what you’re going thru – maybe if we compared notes about health we may finally see the licence to print money scam much of vetting is. We think we’re alone with our dog’s problems and illnesses and chronic conditions and inabiliy to ‘afford the best’ for our dogs. The ‘best’ does not have to bankrupt us.

      So thats what i have to say.

      1. Sue Finistauri says:

        Hi there, I have just read that horror story of the owner who was told about that “3rd level” tartar nonsense. It has been said that a dogs mouth is cleaner than humans. So during a visit with my dentist I had a very interesting conversation with my dental hygienist. She told me of a test performed on the saliva in a dogs mouth. The result was that they have an enzyme which cleans their mouth in a couple of minutes after – say cleaning their butt. In my opinion this would co-incide with allowing a dog to clean a wound. I’m not completely sure of the accuracy of her claim, but it seems to make sense. Thought you would like to know.

        1. admin says:

          Its true Sue, but’s not just the cleaner – its ANTIBACTERIAL in their mouths. I’ve never been made sick by a dog in 50 yrs.
          I have never had worms or parasites from them contrary to what vets will tell you and god knows my exposure with the rescues is 100 times even a vets.
          I have never had an infection when I had a cut when I let a dog lick it either. In fact the one time I didn’t let them lick it – notice they go right for wounds? – I DID get an infection and that’s how I found out that the antibiotics we get from vets for our dogs ARE HUMAN ANTIBIOTICS and we’re charged a FORTUNE for stuff that even with no benefits are cheaper in a human drug store!!
          I also found out you can get a prescription from your vet and take it to a pharmacy. They aren’t allowed to refuse.

          1. Cathy Waters says:

            I have a 4 year old miniature schnauzer who is the biggest little sweetie in the world. I adopted her from my groomer/breeder when she was just over a year old. She had been born with a liver shunt and was operated on at about 11 months of age. It was very successful and by the time I adopted her she was well recovered, happy and loving. She hasn’t had a sick day since. However, from her annual check-up a year ago until now she went from tartar on the teeth, then, to losing 23 teeth from gum disease and infection, now. She had these removed yesterday and is left with her molars and canine teeth. However, they are concerned about two of the molars that are already too far above the gumline but seem well rooted. They recommend keeping her on the Medi-cal vegitarian diet because of her former shunt problems and daily brushing of the teeth. I can’t help but believe the food is the culprit but am scared to try anything that may put stress on the liver. I would love your opinion.

            1. admin says:

              they have antibacterial in their mouths Cathy but its overwhelmed by processed food (kibble). Raw diet will clean teeth, kibble will build tartar and she has no real business being on a vegetarian diet since she isn’t a vegetarian and meat or veggies has little to do with the liver UNLESS its processed so what will they blame NEXT when she gets sick on the vegetarian diet? Oh I KNOW!! you’ll get fibre feed, protein free, every free food next lol

              1. tanya sampson says:

                Hi, I have a 2 1/2 year old boxer that may have bone cancer. She is eating well – but I’m thinking of changing her food to raw. She is on a “premium” kibble that doesn’t contain chicken because my vet said she may be allergic to chicken (and said this is common in dogs). She has dermititis on her paws and is constantly licking them. Would a raw food diet help? Do you think she really has a chicken allergy? I don’t know what to believe any more! Help!

                1. admin says:

                  Sadly Tanya people always come to us too late to prevent cancer but yes we can help mitigate side effects etc. Your vet lied to you about chicken allergies too. He didn’t do his research and took the easy way out. Chicken allergies ARE NOT COMMON, they are RARE. What IS common is allergies to preservatives & additives & food colourings in ALL kibble including ‘premium’. It is not possible to have food that does not turn fuzzy without additves etc. WE cant eat McDonalds for all meals so why would be expect our dogs too?
                  Dogs are physiologically essentially the same as we are. To get our disease they need our organs from cancer – diabetes,. cushings, thyroid etc.
                  Switching to raw now would do no harm and would help the immune system too. There are homeopathics and reiki to help as well.

                  1. Tonia Catcher says:

                    You mention that this diet can be purchased outside of your store and that it is actually less expensive than buying commercial dog food or your food. How would I know what to buy and in what portions to give my dog if that were the case. I am on a reduced budget so need to be very conscious of where I spend the money that I have but it also needs to be in the best possible interests of my dog…..he struggles with hotspots that I cannot seem to be able to stop or prevent

                    1. admin says:

                      Hello Tonia.
                      We work from home and are in the process of getting distributers in different areas. Currently we have someone in the Oakville/Milton/Guelph area who will deliver to those areas and we can arrange delivery to the GTA but there is a charge.

                      Yes you can feed your dog raw diet for less than kibble. You can feed a 50lb dog for $60/mo etc if you buy in bulk and are willing to do some of the work yourself like packaging and freezing. But even if you cant buy bulk and can buy only per week or month for a dog under 8 yrs the cost is only $112 and over 8 and for $120. YEs that is MORE expensive than kibble but people on reduced budgets will like being able to know what they are spending WHEN THEY HAVE VIRTUALLY NO VET BILLS, NO FLEA MEDS, EARCLEANING PRODUCTS, NO SKIN PROBLEMS, LESS POOP BAGS… ;-)))
                      On a reduced budget you can come out here to pick up 7 days a week for frozen.

                      1. Suzanne says:

                        I love your site. I’m putting my dogs on a raw diet this weekend, so I can be home in case either of them have any, um, poop issues. :-) I have two purebred Goldens, 5 years old. One has food and environmental allergies and is having a bad time with dry skin and ear infections, even though I’m very careful about his food. The other one is a tad high strung and has diarreaha (sp?) at least two days a week. Not sure if it’s because of his personality but he drools excessively and his breath is not the nicest. I’m hoping this will help at least some of their issues because I have lost faith in the $80 a bag “high end” kibble that I have been buying since they were puppies. I wish you were closer to be honest as I’d love to try your food. Have a great day.

                        1. admin says:

                          don’t know where you are but we now have delivery in the GTA and a distributer in the west end as far as Burlington and up to guelph

                          1. Shelagh says:

                            Hello,

                            We have just adopted Riley a 6 year old Shepherd/Collie mix. Although the more time I spend looking at him I think that there may be some Golden in there too. I am new to the raw diet scene and am probably being a little OCD about it as I learn what to do. Today is skip a meal give a bone day. I understand that the bone is to keep him occupied or to keep his mind from thinking about the missed meal but he seems completely uninterested in the bone. In fact all he does is bury it in his dog bed. Is it necessary to give him the bone or can I just skip the meal? He is doing great and is fitting in really well. Thanks again for all you do for them!!

                            1. admin says:

                              I know how you feel but its all good. There are 2 things here- fasting is for healing and technically he shld have nothing cuz its a fast. Realistically us dog owners know how relentless they can be when its time to eat so giving the bone is an appeasement for me.
                              The bone is part of the raw diet and has essentially fatty acids in the marrow, bone meal and makes an excellent dog toothbrush (there is bone in the food too). If as you say he doesn’t know what to do with it, give it to him in a crate where he cant bury it. Many dogs tho do bury the bones and go back for them another time when rotten and ugly.
                              Its up to you which way to go but don’t give up so easily lol and DONT let him eat it on your bed. If he tells you I let him eat on my bed he is a liar lol

                              1. Deb says:

                                I would like to know as an animal health care professional what specific supplements are added to your raw diet?

                                1. Jan says:

                                  I’ve had my dogs two Lhasa mixes and one cocker spaniel since the beginning of summer, as I was fostering dogs and you can’t feed a foster dog what amounts to a porterhouse steak and offer your own dogs some Kraft Dinner, so everyone went on raw.

                                  Let me tell you what I’ve noticed.
                                  1) my dogs don’t fart (which is a big problem because now I have no one to blame my gas on. LOL)
                                  2) my dogs’ breath is totally neutral, there is NO doggie breath
                                  3) the dogs’ coats don’t smell doggy
                                  4) fleas and ticks, nope none of those at all!
                                  5) coats are shiny and feel soft and nice without weekly shampooings
                                  4) All three dogs have what I call “rock star” teeth, they are so white it’s scary and hardly any tartar to be seen.
                                  6) Everyone is at weight or in the case of my cocker, losing weight (which he needs)
                                  7) The cocker isn’t chewing his feet nearly as much any more
                                  8) the dogs’ poops are so small I can literally get three poops in one poop back and still have lots of room to tie the bag closed
                                  9) dogs don’t turn up their noses, ever, at the raw diet.
                                  10) feeding is precise because it’s easy to measure to ensure a consistent amount for each meal.
                                  11) I have peace of mind knowing that the dogs are getting a complete, balanced diet.
                                  12) my dogs are happy puppies who have energy and life and vim and vigour!
                                  I wouldn’t go back to kibble if you paid me!

                                  1. Chelsea says:

                                    Hello,

                                    I just switched my dog to raw food, and she seems more hungry. and is going to the bathroom more frequently. I’ve heard to transition the dogs by feeding them one meal raw and one meal kibble and then making the switch to only raw food. I also read on the internet to cut cold turkey, and then I called my vet and they said she should eat BOTH forever. I really don’t know the right answer.

                                    She is a very active border collie x german shepherd and only weighs about 45 lbs (she was the runt of the litter)

                                    She is just over 1 years old.

                                    We changed her to raw because we were finding she wasn’t eating her kibble, she hardly touches it anymore. I mean she’ll eat it but I think at that point its when shes REALLY hungry. Wit the raw she gets SO excited and eats it all right up!!

                                    We feed her “Patties” each pattie is 1/2 a pound.

                                    We feed her 3-4 patties a day depending on her activity level that day. She is a tad bit under weight so we feed her 3. It was suggested that she eat 2 patties a day but we think that is just not enough.

                                    Anyways kind of my question here is that, should she be eating both kibble and raw for the rest of her life? Should we do the “Transition” or should we just quick cold turkey and even if she seems hungry she’ll get used to it? Please help! The dentist also said that the kibble was good for her teeth….

                                    Thank you in advance!
                                    Chelsea

                                    1. Chelsea says:

                                      I meant’ to say the vet said kibble was good for her teeth. Ooops!

                                      1. Melanie says:

                                        I rescued a six week old chihuahua who had a health issue. He splay out on the floor in pain the second I brought him home. His cries we’re awful. The vet checked everything and the only culprit he could find was gas bubble in rectum.

                                        I am wondering if putting a now seven week old 2.6 lbs pup on raw is okay, and how to do it? My older dogs have been on a locally made Raw Performance for years and my old old dog is in great shape.

                                        The pup has been improving over this week with better kibble (moistened) and plenty of outdoor running and play. He still has pain moments, but not as long nor as loud. I massage his belly and legs and he feels better.


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